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8:23pm, Wednesday March 14

Open Coffee Club Palo Alto and Edgeio

NB These posts are sadly only making it out several days after they actually happen - it's hectic here.

Open Coffee Palo AltoAfter a 6:30 start and a lot more walking than was strictly necessary, this morning's meeting was Keith Teare's Open Coffee Club in Palo Alto. There were four or five people there including Mark Birbeck from Forms Player (actually another London company) Keith, Sam Kho and Paul Josefak from Neuhaus Partners venture capital.

Saul and Robin are both investors in Edgeio (as is Mike Arrington) and although I've always found its model interesting I had no idea that the original "listings in blog posts" model was actually not at all what they were about. Edgeio is really the business model that Google Base should be but doesn't bother executing on.

A mockup Edgeio job boardThe company is is of course about listings (and other interesting things to come) but more about de-coupling the creation and management of a listing (jobs, cars, houses etc) from its display. If they can beat the other players to the punch they're going to become enormous as a result of it. Keith Teare the CEO clearly knows his stuff - not only does he seem to have put together a great team and a substantial amount of finance behind the business but he really knows the technology too.

The Edgeio officesAfter the meetup, a couple of us then headed over with Keith to the Edgeio offices where I was introduced to John Dowd who's doing a lot of work figuring out how to network their display points. We also talked about how we could use the things they've done on the (soon to be launched) Open Coffee Network. For my money, they totally get the space they're in and are going to be pumping out some very interesting tools. John's an extremely smart guy and going to work with us setting up a job board on the (soon to be released) Open Coffee Club Network.

Even in less than 24 hours here it's blindingly incredibly obvious even to Pete, a friend who's come out travelling with me, that there is no point in hanging around in London to do a startup.

The people the technical expertise, the price of living and the weather combine to create an atmosphere of potential here you can almost taste in the air. Visiting San Francisco firmly changes the question from being whether one should come here to how to make it happen.


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8:23pm, Wednesday March 14

Arrival


We've only been out here half a day so far but even in that time it's obvious that San Francisco is a pretty special place and not least because of the gorgeous sunny weather.

I remember Ben Metcalf blogging about this when he first came out here but even as you come in from the airport you see advertising hoardings for websites like Blinx and the offices of buzz-names like Slingbox by the side of the road. This is internet-land.

Software, coding and building businesses are in the blood and in sharp contrast to London, people really understand what's involved in creating them. We met up with Harjeet and Kulveer for a Mexican last night and I was amazed at how fast things are moving for them with Auctomatic. They may well be about to get involved with some very significant names and aside from having accepted even more Angel funding are in a very hot spot with their product.

I'm not going to say too much about Y-Combinator yet because there's a lot more to learn and we're fortunate enough to go to one of the founder's dinners tonight. Harj and Kulv both wax lyrical about Paul every time I see them though and I'm looking forward to finally meeting him.
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8:23pm, Wednesday March 14

San Francisco

I'm going to be making my first trip out to San Francisco next week and I'm very excited indeed.

The plan is currently to visit friends at Google, O'Reilly, Slide, Yelp, Berkely, Stanford and of course Harj and Kulveer at Y-Combinator. If the jet-lag doesn't kill me I'm also going to be getting up at 6:30am the day after we arrive to get down to Keith Teare's Open Coffee Morning in Palo Alto too and then off to Alcatraz for a prison visit.

I've been dying to go to San Francisco ever since I got into this field and I can't wait to take off tomorrow. If you happen to be there at the same then please get in touch with me: peter at webkitchen dot co dot uk. I'll be there from Monday - Monday.
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8:23pm, Wednesday March 14

Flex 2 trial

Why does Adobe limit their Flex 2 IDE trial to 30 contiguous days? I'm a huge fan of Flex but getting to grips with any new technology is a huge investment.

The biggest part of that investment by far is the time required to learn the technology. It takes days and weeks before you become truly useful in a new architecture. With good web developers charging out at ~£400/day that's a lot of investment. Add the cost of books and, in this case the IDE on top of that and you're looking at a hard cash investment of £470 over and above the time.

I think Adobe's done an awesome thing with Flex and I think that it's ultimately going to have a bigger effect than AJAX on our notions of how we interact with the web. That process is going to happen a whole lot faster when Adobe change their trial period from 30 contiguous days to 30 cumulative hours or similar and let people appreciate the benefits before they're locked out.

I chatted with Simon Willison about this and he mentioned that he'd played with it but the thing shut down before he had a chance to get to grips with it. Bit of a false economy for Adobe there. Simon speaks at a lot of conferences and is read by a lot of people but he's not going to be saying anything about Flex in the near future because it didn't happen to hook him in the two days he had spare to play with it.

Not so with me though - JavaScript is way too much work and Flex was love at first sight. Time to cough up some cash!
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Open Coffee Meetup a success

Well well done Saul. For my money, this morning's coffee meetup was a real success.

There seems to be a real buzz around these type of events now. A lot of us now know each other and everyone's moving forward and getting real traction. It's noticeable how much more the founders are smiling and laughing then they were a year ago.

This is good. Perhaps it's just me but even though we've all been bumping into each other for the last year or so, this and FOWA were the first times that I started to feel a real community developing.

It's also interesting to see the mainstream media turning up at smaller and smaller events. I spoke to both both Victor Keegan and Jemima Kiss from the Guardian as well of course as the ever-smiling Sam and Mike. It'll be very interesting to see how much more coverage will develop when Last.fm finally gets snapped up.
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Webkitchen is Peter Nixey's blog and website.

Originally from the UK, Peter is now in San Francisco and CEO of Clickpass a startup working to make single-sign-on and OpenID both website and consumer friendly.

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